Episode 161: October 2011 General Conference Relief Society and Priesthood Sessions

if i could score tickets to gen con i would go for the music alone  . mo tab and that pipe organ are the sht.

I was a little disappointed by how snarky the discussion of Uchdorf’s talk was. He said a lot of things that Mormon women deserve and need to hear – be patient with yourself, don’t make foolish sacrifices in an effort to live up to a certain unrealistic image of what you should be, be happy in the here and now, remember the “why” of the gospel instead of always worrying about your to-do list and remember God loves you. Basically, he said the sorts of things many of us uncorrelated Mormons say we wish we heard more in church. I feel like many of the commenters went out of their way to find negatives and read in more than was intended and that is a shame. If one of our liberal Mormon heroes had given the same talk I believe there would have been a totally different reaction.

By the way – I think it’s really, REALLY interesting to have these two meetings presented this way, back to back, because the men rarely hear the RS one and the women have (traditionally) been banned from the men’s meeting. the difference in message, in tone, and in reception are all fascinating, and say a great deal about both the modern church culture AND the modern NOM or post-mormon audience.

I especially loved listening to the section on the Relief Society General Meeting.  I think I see pretty clearly the reasons that *I* no longer believe the truth claims of the LDS church.  And I think I see pretty clearly the gripes that *I* have with the LDS church.  But it was absolutely fascinating to listen in on the women talking.  Anyway.  Thanks ladies.  This was my favorite. 

The past few days I’ve been thinking about why exactly the Relief Society session commentary stuck in my head so much. 

One of the common threads I’ve seen among the disaffected is an anger, or irritation that we have been subjected to ‘brainwashing’ or ‘mind control’ techniques.  I know that I look back on certain scenes from my life and I just re-experience embarrassment, and anger.  I just feel like a big dummy.  I think the mind control techniques may be different for men and women.  As I listened to some of the gripes etc… I thought to myself over and over again “I never saw it that way” — but I did feel trapped, and stifled, just with a different strategy. 

Mormons are NOT considered Christians by most Evangelicals.  This is mainly due to a few critical descriptions related to the identity of the Christ figure of Mormonism.  These attributes of identity assigned to the Mormon Christ are associated to LDS Eternal Progression.      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAZD4DhhlBo

Hello I’m new to this podcast and I just heard something very interesting in this episode regarding the Seperate but Equal idea and that she had written about it on her Blog. Could someone please provide me the name of the blog as I would very much like to read more about this.