Episode 140: Top 10 News Stories in Mormonism: May 2011

John, Christian, Heather, Nathan, and Devin count down the top ten news stories in Mormonism for May 2011.

Episode 140

10 comments on “Episode 140: Top 10 News Stories in Mormonism: May 2011”

  1. Northern Virginianer Reply

    “It’s not quite as sex-free as they say.”

    Yep. Local church leadership would love the Duck weekend to stop happening because apparently confession appointments greatly increase in the weeks following the gathering. It is definitely not officially sponsored by the church.

    • Anonymous Reply

      At least they found a way to get the kids to stop masturbating quite so much right?

  2. Randy Snyder Reply

    Two additions to the scandal.  The husband of the offender is the county supervisor so when your wife is being prosecuted by Pinal County, that’s a doozy.  Second, the father of the main victim was on the same high council as the husband of the offender.  

    Furthermore, some in the county prosecution department wanted and initially pursued prosecution of the bishop involved but the church really rallied around this guy with their big guns from SLC and the bottom line is the law heavily protects them as clergy so it was ultimately dropped.  

  3. Matt Reply

    Did I hear you right that you want to do this kind of news story countdown once each month? I think it’s a fun thing to do a few times a year, but much more often than that could be overkill, especially if it’s a slow news month. (Isn’t this niche kind of already taken by the Mormon Matters podcast anyway?) It could still work, but I hope you’ll do a second podcast on those weeks. 🙂

  4. Jacob Brown Reply

    My bishop here in Texas is totally all over the facebook thing. He thinks it is an inspired tool for missionary work and reactivation. During bishopric and PEC meetings he would spend half an hour talking about the people he met and how it allowed him to reach out. He encouraged us all to get a facebook account. I think he mostly saw it as a way to find the lost young single adults and to keep in touch with the youth.

  5. Anonymous Reply

    Concerning Huntsman as a possible Presidential candidate, to me, the biggest point in his favor is that he is reasonable enough to acknowledge the reality of Anthropogenic Global Warning and the increasing urgency of deciding what to do about it.  He acknowledges that 90% of scientists with actual expertise in climatology and atmospheric chemistry and physics agree that AGW is a reality that is rapidly becoming more urgent.  The small minority of scientists who still disagree with that is rapidly shrinking.  

    I agree with Huntsman that ignoring that fact would be as foolish as dismissing out of hand that something causes cancer despite 90% of the World’s oncologists agreeing that it does.  Acknowledging the reality of AGW is one thing Huntsman shares with Mitt Romney, the other potential LDS Presidential candidate.  I think that fact will do more to hurt both their chances of being nominated as a Republican candidate than the fact that they happen to be Mormons.  The Republicans’ idiotic, head-in-the-sand antipathy towards scientific reality is the main reason that I changed my party affiliation years ago.

  6. Fred W. Anson Reply

    I think the term that the panel was looking for at one point in the presentation was “Double Bind” which in the vernacular is defined this way…

    “You’re damned if you do, and you’re damned if you don’t”

    …and clinically like this: 

    “A double bind is an emotionally distressing dilemma in communication in which an individual (or group) receives two or more conflicting messages, in which one message negates the other. This creates a situation in which a successful response to one message results in a failed response to the other (and vice versa), so that the person will be automatically wrong regardless of response. The double bind occurs when the person cannot confront the inherent dilemma, and therefore cannot resolve it or opt out of the situation. For example, if your employer tells you to do a job, but doesn’t allow enough time for you to do it, and you are in danger of losing your job if you question the situation, you are in a double bind.

    Double bind theory was first described by Gregory Bateson and his colleagues in the 1950s.[1]
    Double binds are often utilized as a form of control without open coercion—the use of confusion makes them difficult to respond to or resist.”

    (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_bind ; retrieved date of post) 

    An analysis was published in 2000 of the how the double bind is used within Mormonism.  It can be read online via this link:  http://www.exmormon.org/pattern/dbmormon.htm

    I hope this helps.

  7. Mike Michaels Reply

    In regards to number 8.

    I met Fulton and Susan Brock twenty-three years ago when they invited my wife and I over to their home to socialize.  At that time we were the only couples with newborns/toddlers in an established ward.  Most people our age in the ward already had kids in elementary school and the ward boundaries had been gerrymandered to exclude all but one apartment complex (the one my wife and I lived in).  In our entire 18 months in that ward Fulton and Susan were the only members who made any effort to get to know us.  They were extremely gracious and kind, unlike anyone else.  Indeed, this was the ward of Bishop Arlo Atkin who was later convicted of sexual relations with a YW (documented in the Mormon Alliance Case Files).
    Fast forward a couple years to our new house one block away in a different ward where we met Matt Myers – the Bishop Matt Myers referred to in the news who was the recipient of Susan Brock’s confession.  Matt and his wife are two of the nicest people anyone could hope to meet in the Church.  He is humble, quiet, and unassuming.  I worked with him for many years in various capacities.

    It is easy for those who are unfamiliar with the characters in this sad drama to assume nefarious and conniving intentions by those involved.  What Susan did is indefensible and she has been suitably punished.  However, expecting those around her to react in a completely dispassionate and rational manner is unreasonable and idealistic.  Certainly neither I nor you nor anyone emotionally attached to Susan, whether by relation or friendship, would be able to react in a wholly defensible manner.  Like you and me, Fulton, Matt, and others involved are not equipped nor trained to deal with such gross dysfunctionality or ability to untangle contradictions in state law.

    At one point in my former LDS life I knew these people.  They are as good hearted and well-intentioned as anyone – Mormon or not.  When painted into a corner all of us attempt to find a way out that, in hindsight, might appear to be unethical or illegal.  We would not want to be judged so harshly in such circumstances and neither should we rush to judgement on those Susan impacted by her poor decisions.  Susan has destroyed more lives than just her victim.  Nothing is to be gained by castigating Fulton, Matt, Mitch Jones, or others that acted with poor judgement in such difficult circumstances.  

    • Hermes Reply

      Calling out inadequate church procedure should not leave us with less compassion for those who are really just doing the best they can with incredibly little useful information.  Thanks for posting this, Mike.

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