Episode 53: Glenn Ostlund Interviews Kaboh

19 Years ago on his Mission, Glenn Ostlund baptized Kaboh Miyashima. Listen to this fascinating interview as Glenn reconnects with his past convert and they discuss his conversion and what it means to be a member in Japan.

Episode 53

29 comments on “Episode 53: Glenn Ostlund Interviews Kaboh”

  1. Swearing Elder Reply

    This was fascinating. I have several Japanese friends and could visualize Kaboh even though we have no photo of him here. I would love to do this with some of the people who I baptized on my mission to see what, if any, effect joining the church had on them. (Mine is one of those with abysmal retention so I wonder how many are even active and I imagine that for some getting baptized is just a distant memory of “something I did way back when.”)

    For anyone who wants to accuse Mormon Expression of being “anti-Mormon” let them check this episode out. I think it’s great, even for those of us who no longer count ourselves among the believers, to hear these kinds of episodes. To me, this episode shows that you’re interesting in shining a light on Mormonism and seeing what’s going on with it, good, bad or otherwise.

  2. Swearing Elder Reply

    This was fascinating. I have several Japanese friends and could visualize Kaboh even though we have no photo of him here. I would love to do this with some of the people who I baptized on my mission to see what, if any, effect joining the church had on them. (Mine is one of those with abysmal retention so I wonder how many are even active and I imagine that for some getting baptized is just a distant memory of “something I did way back when.”)

    For anyone who wants to accuse Mormon Expression of being “anti-Mormon” let them check this episode out. I think it’s great, even for those of us who no longer count ourselves among the believers, to hear these kinds of episodes. To me, this episode shows that you’re interesting in shining a light on Mormonism and seeing what’s going on with it, good, bad or otherwise.

  3. Tom Perry Reply

    This was a fun interview, something that Mormon Expression hasn’t done before.

    I enjoyed Kaboh’s openness and honesty. I also enjoyed hearing a different perspective from outside the US as well. It made me want to contact some of the converts I was involved with on my mission as well. Interesting…

    Nicely done Glenn.

  4. Tom Perry Reply

    This was a fun interview, something that Mormon Expression hasn’t done before.

    I enjoyed Kaboh’s openness and honesty. I also enjoyed hearing a different perspective from outside the US as well. It made me want to contact some of the converts I was involved with on my mission as well. Interesting…

    Nicely done Glenn.

  5. ashley Reply

    Great Job, Glenn. It was nice to hear a different cultural perspective in Mormonism. Also a good reminder of all the goodness and truth that the church is in the lives of some people. Thanks Glenn!

  6. ashley Reply

    Great Job, Glenn. It was nice to hear a different cultural perspective in Mormonism. Also a good reminder of all the goodness and truth that the church is in the lives of some people. Thanks Glenn!

  7. Zilpha Reply

    Glenn, you did a great job. Thanks to you and Kaboh for sharing this story with us.

  8. Zilpha Reply

    Glenn, you did a great job. Thanks to you and Kaboh for sharing this story with us.

  9. Clay Painter Reply

    Glenn. Well done.
    It was good to get a fresh perspective through a faithful converts eyes.
    Thanks.

  10. Clay Painter Reply

    Glenn. Well done.
    It was good to get a fresh perspective through a faithful converts eyes.
    Thanks.

  11. NM Tony Reply

    Glenn, I really enjoyed this podcast. It was very interesting to hear the perspective of a member who is not American. I found it interesting that Kaboh and others in Japan look at themselves as possibly among the ten lost tribes of Israel. I also found it quite entertaining that like many male converts his entrance into the church was due in large part to the encouragement of a young lady. ๐Ÿ™‚ Nicely done interview!

  12. NM Tony Reply

    Glenn, I really enjoyed this podcast. It was very interesting to hear the perspective of a member who is not American. I found it interesting that Kaboh and others in Japan look at themselves as possibly among the ten lost tribes of Israel. I also found it quite entertaining that like many male converts his entrance into the church was due in large part to the encouragement of a young lady. ๐Ÿ™‚ Nicely done interview!

  13. Paul Nurnberg Reply

    Nice interview. I really enjoyed listening to Glenn and Kaboh speak about faith and doubts. Hearing Kaboh talk about is conversion was very moving. He spoke with hosesty and humility.

    Thank you, Glenn! And thank you Mormon Expression for sharing this interview.

  14. Paul Nurnberg Reply

    Nice interview. I really enjoyed listening to Glenn and Kaboh speak about faith and doubts. Hearing Kaboh talk about is conversion was very moving. He spoke with hosesty and humility.

    Thank you, Glenn! And thank you Mormon Expression for sharing this interview.

  15. Glenn Reply

    Thanks all. Kaboh is a very interesting guy. I offered this interview to John because I think it fits the overall message of M.E. very well — let’s look at Mormonism and its global affect on people’s lives in an objective manner. Regardless of how we come at these topics or where we locate ourselves in relation to the truth claims of the church, lets explore this interesting thing that has had such a huge influence in our lives. It’s fascinating and complex and problematic and incredibly meaningful stuff. Cheers!

  16. Glenn Reply

    Thanks all. Kaboh is a very interesting guy. I offered this interview to John because I think it fits the overall message of M.E. very well — let’s look at Mormonism and its global affect on people’s lives in an objective manner. Regardless of how we come at these topics or where we locate ourselves in relation to the truth claims of the church, lets explore this interesting thing that has had such a huge influence in our lives. It’s fascinating and complex and problematic and incredibly meaningful stuff. Cheers!

  17. Gary C Reply

    Glenn,
    Very intriguing interview – I really enjoyed it! I was surprised to see your name, and was wondering if you are the same Glenn I’m thinking of. If you are, I lived in the same neighborhood as you. My older sister, Diana, was your age. I also have an older sister, Wendy, who was 2yrs older than you. I remember going on a few Priest quorum outings with you.

    I recently had lunch with one of my high school friends (Christian), and he mentioned you were living in Japan. I’m assuming this is you? Anyway, fascinating interview.

    Gary C

    • Glenn Reply

      Hey Gary — yeah, it’s me. Are you on facebook? Let’s catch up offline — I’d love to hear how you and your family have been doing.

      • Gary C Reply

        Glenn – My career is in the technology industry, yet I am far behind in the social networking thing ๐Ÿ™‚ I don’t have a facebook account, but realize I need to eventually. I’ll setup a new account and send you a friend invite.

        Good hearing from you!

  18. Gary C Reply

    Glenn,
    Very intriguing interview – I really enjoyed it! I was surprised to see your name, and was wondering if you are the same Glenn I’m thinking of. If you are, I lived in the same neighborhood as you. My older sister, Diana, was your age. I also have an older sister, Wendy, who was 2yrs older than you. I remember going on a few Priest quorum outings with you.

    I recently had lunch with one of my high school friends (Christian), and he mentioned you were living in Japan. I’m assuming this is you? Anyway, fascinating interview.

    Gary C

    • Glenn Reply

      Hey Gary — yeah, it’s me. Are you on facebook? Let’s catch up offline — I’d love to hear how you and your family have been doing.

      • Gary C Reply

        Glenn – My career is in the technology industry, yet I am far behind in the social networking thing ๐Ÿ™‚ I don’t have a facebook account, but realize I need to eventually. I’ll setup a new account and send you a friend invite.

        Good hearing from you!

  19. Melissa Reply

    Glenn,
    You are a great addition to ME! I really enjoyed this interview with Kaboh. Very cool to see his perspective after all these years. I loved his honesty, (you guys were pushy, English lessons? sneaky sneaky…). It was also neat to hear how he came to have the desire to be baptized after he had already made up his mind not to.
    He is way too hard on himself though, his english was great! Well done Glenn…
    “Up Yours”!

  20. Melissa Reply

    Glenn,
    You are a great addition to ME! I really enjoyed this interview with Kaboh. Very cool to see his perspective after all these years. I loved his honesty, (you guys were pushy, English lessons? sneaky sneaky…). It was also neat to hear how he came to have the desire to be baptized after he had already made up his mind not to.
    He is way too hard on himself though, his english was great! Well done Glenn…
    “Up Yours”!

  21. Fred Reply

    Glenn, I revisited this episode recently and was wondering if you’ve ever told Kobah about your current stance in regard to Mormonism.

    Just curious.

  22. Itscats Reply

    Well said…..
    Sex is precious and should be part of a committed monogamous relationship, yet in the church it is used to get young couples married quickly before they have time to really know their partner.

    This is a sin… to marry someone you don’t really know just so you can have sex.

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