72b: Listener Essays, Part 2

26 comments on “72b: Listener Essays, Part 2”

  1. Swearing Elder Reply

    A woman’s voice! I commented early in Mormon Expression’s life that it’d be nice to hear more women’s voices only to learn that John, et al. had indeed reached out, but had less success getting women to participate. Since then we’ve heard more from Zilpha and others, which is a good thing.

    But I think the fact that only one woman self-selected to submit something is indicative of this general issue. Why is it that fewer women choose to speak out in the liberal/heretical/apostate Mormon world? It seems that plenty do at Sunstone (though I don’t know what percentage they make up there), but the further “out” you get it seems there are fewer women’s voices. Are they more satisfied to just “walk away” and not look back? Are there significantly fewer who actually do leave the pack?

    Whatever the reason that there are fewer women in general, I’m glad Stephanie contributed. It was a great essay.

    • Ella Menno Reply

      As a woman, I’d like to speak to that comment.

      I did record an essay, about 15 times. I just couldn’t make it what I wanted it to be so I didn’t hit submit. I don’t know why there weren’t more female voices. I don’t know that it’s a church thing, but it could be. For me it was a perfection thing, which could be related to church. I don’t like to take a casserole to a church function unless it looks and tastes good. RS lessons always have a center piece. If it isn’t just right then it isn’t worthy, I suppose. Maybe it’s because we don’t really have a voice within the church so many of us just don’t speak up when we get the opportunity. At any rate, I wish I would have contributed if only to give women one more voice to be heard.

      Kudos to everyone! Thank you for sharing.

  2. Swearing Elder Reply

    A woman’s voice! I commented early in Mormon Expression’s life that it’d be nice to hear more women’s voices only to learn that John, et al. had indeed reached out, but had less success getting women to participate. Since then we’ve heard more from Zilpha and others, which is a good thing.

    But I think the fact that only one woman self-selected to submit something is indicative of this general issue. Why is it that fewer women choose to speak out in the liberal/heretical/apostate Mormon world? It seems that plenty do at Sunstone (though I don’t know what percentage they make up there), but the further “out” you get it seems there are fewer women’s voices. Are they more satisfied to just “walk away” and not look back? Are there significantly fewer who actually do leave the pack?

    Whatever the reason that there are fewer women in general, I’m glad Stephanie contributed. It was a great essay.

    • Ella Menno Reply

      As a woman, I’d like to speak to that comment.

      I did record an essay, about 15 times. I just couldn’t make it what I wanted it to be so I didn’t hit submit. I don’t know why there weren’t more female voices. I don’t know that it’s a church thing, but it could be. For me it was a perfection thing, which could be related to church. I don’t like to take a casserole to a church function unless it looks and tastes good. RS lessons always have a center piece. If it isn’t just right then it isn’t worthy, I suppose. Maybe it’s because we don’t really have a voice within the church so many of us just don’t speak up when we get the opportunity. At any rate, I wish I would have contributed if only to give women one more voice to be heard.

      Kudos to everyone! Thank you for sharing.

  3. RKD Reply

    Very impressed with the quality and variety of approaches in both sets of essays. Just great!!! I too, hope you will continue these kind of podcasts. Listening to these made me think to myself “What an intelligent likable bunch of people these are. A lot of my favorite Mormons are the “Ex” kind.” Thank you again to everyone who went to the trouble to create and make these essays available!

  4. RKD Reply

    Very impressed with the quality and variety of approaches in both sets of essays. Just great!!! I too, hope you will continue these kind of podcasts. Listening to these made me think to myself “What an intelligent likable bunch of people these are. A lot of my favorite Mormons are the “Ex” kind.” Thank you again to everyone who went to the trouble to create and make these essays available!

  5. Alan Reply

    I can’t believe I made it on!! Thanks, John. Loved the other essays as well. Each seemed to have something different to offer.

  6. Alan Reply

    I can’t believe I made it on!! Thanks, John. Loved the other essays as well. Each seemed to have something different to offer.

    • Perry Reply

      Yes Chris I did, fast forwarding sound effects et all.

      Being a lapsed perfectionist, I started at about 10 and next thing you know it was 3pm and I was done.

    • Perry Reply

      Yes Chris I did, fast forwarding sound effects et all.

      Being a lapsed perfectionist, I started at about 10 and next thing you know it was 3pm and I was done.

  7. Listener in Spain Reply

    Many thanks for these wonderfully inspiring personal reflections.

    I’m new to the ME site but am learning so much. The circumcission topic was quite a surpise item that appeared and stirred up thoughts about my own brutal suffering experience, being born in Britain, when it was a common practice.

    I’m so glad that it was not inflicted on my own 3 sons.

    I look forward to listening to many more of your informative and challenging discussions over the next few weeks.

    Thanks again!

  8. Listener in Spain Reply

    Many thanks for these wonderfully inspiring personal reflections.

    I’m new to the ME site but am learning so much. The circumcission topic was quite a surpise item that appeared and stirred up thoughts about my own brutal suffering experience, being born in Britain, when it was a common practice.

    I’m so glad that it was not inflicted on my own 3 sons.

    I look forward to listening to many more of your informative and challenging discussions over the next few weeks.

    Thanks again!

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